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Critique: “cherry-sweet” by unenglishable



The first piece that I'll thoroughly critique (and hopefully, usefully) is unenglishable's submission to tWR, cherry-sweet.


Before I get to the nitty-gritty stuff, can I say how refreshing it is to critique a short verse poem. Short verse poetry is fantastic. I'm going to use this opportunity to also suggest the groups, TheSimulacrum and minimalit, if you weren't aware of them already, as they're excellent groups focused on short verse and minimalist poetry.

Right, to critiquing!

The first point of consideration I'd like to bring up: the title. Usually, titling a poem after the first line is fine, but I really think you could use the title to more effect here. The length of your poem draws attention to the first line, which you'd presumably want to stand alone and not be repetitive in order to have the most impact.

I'm not going to suggest alternate titles, because there are so many ways you could go with this. However, having an alternate title could make your message clearer, if you feel that the readers aren't understanding the message you want to convey. A different title could also further enhance / complicate what is already there.

Now, I'm going to use a method of critiquing I've used before (thanks again to SilverInkblot for coming up with it), which essentially boils down to my annotating parts of your poem and then explaining what I have to say about those particular parts. (I'll consider the poem as a whole in the answer to your second question, below.)

cherry-sweet1,
feel your desire melt2.

plunge2, 3 (back)3 into humanity4.

1 I like this. Again, I think it would work better if the title wasn't the same as this first line, but I enjoy how you've played around with the construction of the first sentence and the two lines.

2 I enjoyed the connection and similarity between these two verbs: both of them are liquid-based imagery, which I thought was a good choice and helped bring the poem - and its thematic integrity - together, so well done!

3 I really like the word 'plunge', though I'm always a bit wary of parentheses in poetry. Parentheses are used as either explanations or afterthoughts; they either build on an idea or enhance it. However, I understand the use of it here (the addition of 'back' makes the action that, without it, would seem sudden, become more cyclic, perhaps even repetitive), and I think it works. What I would suggest is to use enjambment to your advantage to further emphasise the intent, for example, with something like

plunge
(back) into humanity.

The enjambment there has a greater effect on the word plunge and also changes how the poem is read, by the reader. Of course, that's not the only way to go about it, and there are numerous different ways of structuring the line which would have subtly different effects. I'd suggest you play around with the enjambment there, and see what works best for you. Check out SparrowSong's article on it; it's a great resource:

The Breaking Point: End-stopping and EnjambmentIntroduction
The most noticeable difference between poetry and prose is often the use of line breaks in poetry. When the line break comes at the end of a phrase, sentence, or clause, the line is end-stopped. End-stopped lines often end with punctuation like periods/full stops, commas, semi-colons, and colons. When the line break disrupts the phrase, sentence, or clause, the line is enjambed. The French word enjambement, from which 'enjambment' is derived, means 'straddling,' and appropriately, the phrases straddle two or more lines.
End-Stopping
The first four lines of Shakespeare's "Sonnet 18" are an example of end-stopped lines:
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate.
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer's lease hath all too short a date.
Walt Whitman also uses end-stopped lines in "Song of Myself (I)":
I Celebrate myself, and sing myself,
And what I assume you shall assume,
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4 I'm not too fond of the word-choice here, especially in comparison to the rest of the poem. Previously, your poem has been very sharp with its specific word choice, creating a very clear, focused image, but here it broadens, and I'm not sure that works to your poem's advantage. I like the implication here - the relationship of desire with the world, and the resulting to-and-fro connection thereof, but catch-all words like 'humanity' (e.g., 'freedom', 'life', 'death', etc) ought to be used carefully, in all poetry but especially in short verse poetry. Every word has to count.

I think the use of it here detracts from your poem, and I would suggest changing it to something more narrow. A more focused word might also serve as a contrast between the broad implications of the verb 'plunge'. For example - as I know critiques like "I don't like the word-choice" seem a bit weak without specific suggestions - you could continue that liquid imagery and have something like 'the current' instead of humanity, which would not only be thematically fitting, but also wordplay, due to the multiple meanings of the word 'current'.

That's all I have to say on the details of the poem, I think. I hope it helped you and that it was useful! Feel free to ask me anything if you want something clarified / have questions / etc.

Now, to answer your questions…


This poem was originally much longer and much more verbose.  What is your opinion on this poem in terms of those qualities?
Length alone isn't something I judge a poem by - what matters to me more is the content of the poem and how necessary it is to the poem's impact. It's simply that with short verse poetry, every word, punctuation mark, and structural choice immediately becomes more important to what the poem is doing.

If you felt what was originally there in the poem didn't need to be there and didn't help the poem, removing it is often the best option. Verbosity is (usually) no one's friend (except maybe satire's).

What is your impression of this poem?  I'm not sure if this conveys the same thing I originally intended, but that's okay.  Interpretation is probably more worthwhile.
I don't know about that - though interpretation is definitely worthwhile, what you want conveyed is an important factor in the construction of the entire poem. The interpretations of readers is something you can use as a measuring tool for your poem: where you wanted it to be (your writing of your message), where it is now (the readers' interpretation of that message), and what you want it to be now (your evaluation of the readers' interpretation).

However, as I said, it read to me as a comment on the relationship of desire with the world, and the resulting to-and-fro connection thereof, due to the complications between the innocence implied by 'cherry'. It was an interesting read, thank you for that!

Do you think this poem is still too obvious or verbose?  (Why?/Why not?)
I don't think the poem is either, no, because you've clearly avoided verbosity by whittling the poem to its most basic, as well as skirted clear of the obvious, particularly through that first line.



unenglishable’s evolution through the years




science is a piece from late 2012; I can definitely see a difference in your recent works compared to earlier works. Though there are similarities: your experimentation with punctuation is obvious. However, there's a lot more telling rather than showing in comparison to, say, cherry-sweet; what's stated is very obvious and there's not much left up to interpretation.




I like the title of this one! Coffee-fueled Rage is from early 2013, and your experimentation with form is really interesting here. There's definite improvement: while there's still some lines and choices I'm not too fond of (for example, the last stanza is not the strongest part of the poem), you've moved away a little from the telling and begun to show more through sheer implication. The second stanza is particularly good, and I also enjoyed the title here.





There's a lot of improvement here. nightly was written in the later half of 2013, and I really think your grasp of metaphor, imagery, and punctuation has improved noticeably - "the warm rays of / anyone.", for example, is probably the line I'm most fond of in that poem. I'd still question the use of the parenthetical ending: "the warm rays of / anyone." makes such a stronger ending, so much so that I would either remove the last two lines or place it elsewhere, for example, between the lines 'waiting' and 'to bask [...]'. Still, an enjoyable poem and a fantastic example of how your writing has improved and evolved through the years!




Conclusions


unenglishable has shown a great ability to experiment with various facets and techniques of poetry (and prose, as well, I think, though I haven't touched on the prose in this critique!) throughout the years, and continuously shown an improvement in their writing. There's still room for improvement - there always is, for everyone - but I'm sure it's nothing unenglishable will flinch at. Keep at the wonderful writing. :heart:



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This is terrific.  Thank you, very much, for taking the time to critique my work.


I originally asked for critique on "cherry-sweet" because I felt it was not quite making the statement I wanted it to; and I wasn't quite sure why.  I'm not very experienced with short poetry and this wasn't initially intended to be an attempt at it; it just turned out that way as I removed the less necessary elements.


I've been working non-stop on showing rather than telling - something I've been criticized of doing since I began writing.  Detail and verbosity are  amazing and wonderful in scholarly essays as well as scientific papers, which I have written my fair share of.  My pickiness and desire to rid my writing (and speech, for that matter) of ambiguity has never failed me in an academic environment, so it is somewhat difficult to give those up in poetry and still wind up with something good.  A great deal of the joy I find in writing poetry stems from the constraint, which always demands clever solutions.


To combat verbosity, I've developed a technique which involves iteratively removing parts of a poem until only the most vital parts remain; a technique I first used when writing "nightly".  I've done away with almost all of the gimmicks and any crazy formatting that was taking away from the meaning of the poems.  Long story short, this is why "cherry-sweet" is now a short poem.


In terms of the advice given, I completely agree with what was said about the title as well as the word "humanity".  Putting a little extra thought into modifying those two things can greatly improve the efficacy and quality of this poem.  As I was reading through the critique, I came to the same conclusion that I could have easily kept the extended metaphor going and used a much more appropriate description in that sense.  I'll definitely be taking a look at those short poetry resources too.  It's not easy to write something powerful in such a condensed form and I'm sure any and all advice will help.


I must admit that it's an honor to be featured in a tWR Critiques You article.  Reading the previous articles, I always thought that if I worked hard enough, someone might possibly go through the trouble of looking at all of my old garbage (for lack of a better word) and doing an analysis of my progress.  It's hard to do an inflective analysis this way, so it always makes me happy to see that tWR goes the extra mile.  Really, what you're doing here is just wonderful.


And it's true, I will never flinch at the opportunity to improve.  I consider writing in a dynamic sense: changing as my life itself changes - to be explored and experimented with; an adventure rather than a path to a destination.  And now I apologize because I've gone and talked too much about myself.


Thank you again.  This is a wonderful review and I enjoyed reading it; hopefully others can benefit from it as well.